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 91 
 on: July 24, 2012, 10:35:29 PM 
Started by David - Last post by David
Perhaps Ron's spouse is spying on the movement.

We have a space available, as well as a new time at an off-site location for this Sunday not too far away from SLCA.

For very obvious reasons we will ONLY be disclosing the location and time ONLY to those that have either registered at   fightback@stillwaterlakes.net OR to those that have left their information at (570) 851-0228.

So if you haven't done so already, and you do NOT want to continue being a defrauded "Mandatory Member" of SLCA...please either; send your information to the email above, or leave a message at the number above.

We thank the many that have responded thus far.

 92 
 on: July 24, 2012, 11:59:09 AM 
Started by David - Last post by puchichis
Perhaps Ron's spouse is spying on the movement.

 93 
 on: July 18, 2012, 11:31:39 PM 
Started by David - Last post by David
I just got an email from someone that had difficulty registering on this site, but asked me to post this:

Dear David i found your still water lakes ad very interesting and decided to comment on that a bit as a former Peace Officer even i had to have probable cause to stop a vehicle security guards are nothing more than just regular citizens making illegal traffic stops and detaining the residents against their will at that community:

A false arrest is a situation in which someone is detained unlawfully. Depending on the circumstances, a false arrest charge may be changed to a false imprisonment charge, in which someone is illegally confined or held against their will, if the charge can be proved, sometimes it is possible to recover Punitive Damage from the arresting or detaining party.
False arrests are considered more as a civil crime. They are usually classified as misdemeanors. The vast majority of false arrest charges which make their way to court are leveled against privatesecurity companies, who sometimes use threats or coercion to hold people.


Security guards are not Police or Peace Officers who are sworn officers and given the authority of arrest powers. Security Guards conducting car stops can be considered as a false arrest they are detaining you against your will even if it is for a matter of five minutes the moment they stopped you to enforce a vehicle traffic law they have taken your freedom.


Green lights mean nothing and the cars they are riding in are not classified as an authorized vehicle to make traffic stops. Once you enter private property, HOA has the right to enforce their policies (not laws) as they please. Now as far as their fines, it means nothing as the officers who are enforcing the fines have no authority to make traffic stops. HOA can do whatever they feel like until someone takes them to court and challenge their policies in court.

 Someone needs to school those guards on their actual duties and limitations. Make them realize that minimum wage is not worth getting sued over.


...and here's the law in Pennsylvania regarding the green lights:
173.3. Display requirements.

 (a)  Color. White, clear, red, blue, amber or yellow are the only colors permitted for use in flashing or revolving lights. (Emphasis added)

That said, if you have been or are in the future; stopped (detained) by Vector, looks like there would be just about three parties legally liable: Vector Security Co., the actual offending guard, and the association.

...and just a friendly reminder folks...GET THAT EXTRA INSURANCE RIDER TO AVOID HAVING TO SHARE IN PAYING FOR LAWSUITS AGAINST THE "ASSOCIATION"......OH wait!!!! If you're NOT a member, you don't have to pay for that either.

 94 
 on: July 18, 2012, 09:45:04 PM 
Started by David - Last post by David
I would like to thank everyone who emailed their name, telephone number and physical address to fightback@stillwaterlakes.net or called 570-851-0228 and lefted a message with their contact information regarding the meeting tentatively scheduled for Sunday, July 29thhttp://www.stillwaterlakes.net/flyer.pdf

It's important that we know how many people to expect, so if you feel you have been deceived into believing membership was mandatory and would like to be part of this meeting, please send us your contact information ASAP. A lawyer will be present to explain the suit and answer any questions.





I don't want to get into too much detail; as I am sure it will all be cleared up at the meeting, but based on a common question we've gotten from several of the folks that have responded and agreed to support this fight, I'd like to clear something up.

This "Suit" is to once and for all end the scam of "Mandatory Membership" by having the courts rule on what the legal documents clearly state; that you do NOT have to be a member.

Once this is out of the way, everything else will fall into place, including making the responsible players actually "Responsible" for their crimes.

That's all for now...see you all at the meeting.

 95 
 on: July 18, 2012, 05:01:21 PM 
Started by David - Last post by admin
I would like to thank everyone who emailed their name, telephone number and physical address to fightback@stillwaterlakes.net or called 570-851-0228 and lefted a message with their contact information regarding the meeting tentatively scheduled for Sunday, July 29thhttp://www.stillwaterlakes.net/flyer.pdf

It's important that we know how many people to expect, so if you feel you have been deceived into believing membership was mandatory and would like to be part of this meeting, please send us your contact information ASAP. A lawyer will be present to explain the suit and answer any questions.




 96 
 on: July 17, 2012, 01:36:11 PM 
Started by David - Last post by David
Okay, so here's what I have found so far.

http://texasofficertraining.com/blog/2012/01/29/police-impersonation/

As it turns out...Vector Security may just be committing an actual felony by making a traffic stop which includes detaining the driver.

This also INCLUDES "Private Communities".

So if you have been stopped by Vector and detained (not allowed to drive away) you may be able to take legal action which can include having the security officer arrested as well as suing Vector and the Association.

I'll keep on with the research, but make it your all to consult with an attorney if Vector has and/or does stop you with their illegal blue lights.

Here's the law regarding the lights. I am still looking for the actual PA penal code that makes it a crime for Vector to stop anyone. According to this law below, Vector isn't even supposed to have blue lights on their vehicles in the state of Pennsylvania.


 CHAPTER 173. FLASHING OR REVOLVING LIGHTS ON
EMERGENCY AND AUTHORIZED VEHICLES


 (3)  Blue lights. A vehicle may display blue lights as provided for by 75 Pa.C.S.  4572(a) (relating to visual signals on authorized vehicles). Vehicles described in 75 Pa.C.S.  4572(a) may be equipped with a light-bar assembly using only blue lights. See Figure 3.1.
4572. Visual signals on authorized vehicles.

75 Pa.C.S.  4572(a)
(a) Flashing or revolving blue lights.--Ambulance personnel, volunteer firefighters and owners and handlers of dogs used in tracking humans may each equip one motor vehicle with no more than two flashing or revolving blue lights.

That said...PA law Prohibits non-emergency vehicles from having blue lights other than those mentioned above and underlined. ERGO----Vector Security CAN NOT pull you over!!!!
Just brought to my attention that Vector's lights are actually green and amber; which still does NOT give them the right to perform traffic stops.

 97 
 on: July 17, 2012, 01:00:46 AM 
Started by David - Last post by David
Okay, so here's what I have found so far.

http://texasofficertraining.com/blog/2012/01/29/police-impersonation/

As it turns out...Vector Security may just be committing an actual felony by making a traffic stop which includes detaining the driver.

This also INCLUDES "Private Communities".

So if you have been stopped by Vector and detained (not allowed to drive away) you may be able to take legal action which can include having the security officer arrested as well as suing Vector and the Association.

I'll keep on with the research, but make it your all to consult with an attorney if Vector has and/or does stop you with their illegal blue lights.

Here's the law regarding the lights. I am still looking for the actual PA penal code that makes it a crime for Vector to stop anyone. According to this law below, Vector isn't even supposed to have blue lights on their vehicles in the state of Pennsylvania.


 CHAPTER 173. FLASHING OR REVOLVING LIGHTS ON
EMERGENCY AND AUTHORIZED VEHICLES


 (3)  Blue lights. A vehicle may display blue lights as provided for by 75 Pa.C.S.  4572(a) (relating to visual signals on authorized vehicles). Vehicles described in 75 Pa.C.S.  4572(a) may be equipped with a light-bar assembly using only blue lights. See Figure 3.1.
4572. Visual signals on authorized vehicles.

75 Pa.C.S.  4572(a)
(a) Flashing or revolving blue lights.--Ambulance personnel, volunteer firefighters and owners and handlers of dogs used in tracking humans may each equip one motor vehicle with no more than two flashing or revolving blue lights.

That said...PA law Prohibits non-emergency vehicles from having blue lights other than those mentioned above and underlined. ERGO----Vector Security CAN NOT pull you over!!!!

 98 
 on: July 16, 2012, 11:38:51 AM 
Started by David - Last post by David
Well, just as we knew it; this year's annual meeting was canceled.

According to Ron Kluge; there weren't enough in attendance to have a quorum, which amounted to 42 "members".

"42"Huh?? That would mean that there are only 210 "Members in good standing"; which might I remind; are NOT necessarily those that pay, but those that they control.

Now comes the irony. Not sure if I really need to get my ears checked, but it truly sounded like Ron said something to the affect of,

"We have to postpone the meeting because we don't have a quorum of 42....Not enough people showed up...could be because they're on vacation, or maybe it's because they're not happy with whats going on in our community...maybe they are on vacation..."

Bravo Ron!!!!  Sounds like you're admitting something.
Early signs of finger pointing. Who will he blame when this cookie finally crumbles? Matt, Tom, Maria, Wienstein etc. Huh

We shall soon see.....

 99 
 on: July 14, 2012, 12:19:31 AM 
Started by David - Last post by David
I believe the newsletter David is referring to, can downloaded at:http://www.stillwaterlakes.net/flyer.pdf

If you feel you have been deceived into believing membership was mandatory and would like to be part of this action, join us for an informational meeting tentatively scheduled for Sunday, July 29th, at a place and time to be determined. A lawyer will be present to explain the suit and answer any questions.

To be notified of the official time and place of the meeting and kept apprised of the progress please send your name, telephone number and physical address to fightback@stillwaterlakes.net (Note: this email address is NOT associated with Stillwater Lakes Civic Association, Inc. We are property owners fighting for the rights of property owners.) Or call 570-851-0228 and leave a message with your information.



...and to our spanish speaking neighbors (Para nuestros vecinos Latinos)


DEJE DE SER VICTIMA!
DUENOS DE PROPIEDADES COJIENDO UN PUESTO CONTRA SLCA JUNTESE CON NOSOTROS AHORA!
Duenos de propiedades estamos demandando a Stillwater civic Association para que senos declare y determine si CC&Rs require que tenemos que ser miembros de la asociasion.
Nosotros creemos que las reglas estan claras espresando que ser un miembro es voluntaria no obligado. Tambien creemos que fuimos manipulados y victimas de frauda  por real estate y commercial. La associasion desecharon sus obligasiones fedecial y contradadas a nuestros contraltos de casa. Nuestra queja esta pidiendo a la corte que determine.

   Si ser dueno de propiedad nos demanda ser miembros de la associasion.

   Si un dueno que escoje no ser miembro tiene que seguir las reglas y regulaciones puestas por la associasion.

   Si la associasion puede mandar que los duenos sean miembros simplemente por tener propiedad en la comunidad.

   Si la associasion puede cobrar le a las personas que no son miembros por gastos especiales que no tengan nada que ver con las careteras o la agua (sewer).

Que Sera Loque Perderia Con No Juntarse con Esta Demanda?

   Si llegamos a un trato con esta demanda usted no pudiera disfrutar de los resultados.- por ejemplo, si ellos y nosotros quedamos de acuerdo que las personas nombradas que no somos miembros de la associasion pero si tenemos que pagar una porcion para las careteras y mantenimiento de areas communes. Esto no le perteneria a usted. Usted si estaria pagando un gasto mas grande por las actividades escojidas por la associasion (demandas, seguridad, etc.)

   Cores un riesgo de la associasion reclamando que usted voluntariamente se descargo de poder demander en el futuro. Por ejemplo,  si usted quiere desaserse de ser miembro en una fecha future la associason puede desir que usted no puede tener demanda contra ellos porque usted nego de aserlo con tiempo disponible asi es que lla a pasado el tiempo de poder traer Demanda contra ellos porque lla el tiempo appropiado paso

   Por no juntarse en esta demanda riesga que el valor de propiedad baje.
Por no ser miembro su dinero seria gastado en areas communes(las careteras, los lagos, la casita de la communidad) No estaria juntada para otras actividades como (legales,y actividades de los miembros, seguridad (Vector), etc). Su dinero se usara donde es devido..

Usted quiere ser parte de la demanda?

Si usted siente que le an mentido y defraudado en pensar que tiene que ser miembro mandatoria mente venga a ahblar con nosotros y consiga la informacion necesaria para determinar  la verdad de la mentira. Tenemos una reunion tentativa el Domingo Julio 29, 2012. El abogado estara presente para explicar la demanda y contester cualquier preguntas que tengan. Para estar notificados el lugar u la ohra official y saber como esta progresando la demanda porfavor mande su nombre, numero de telefono, y su direcsionA fightback@stillwaterlakes.net (nota esta no es la misma direcsion de internet de la associasion. Nosotros somos duenos de propiedad peliando por nuestros derechos.) puede llamar 570-851-0228 y dejar mensaje con su informacion gracias.
(Se habla espanol)

 100 
 on: July 13, 2012, 12:27:58 PM 
Started by David - Last post by admin
I believe the newsletter David is referring to, can downloaded at:http://www.stillwaterlakes.net/flyer.pdf

If you feel you have been deceived into believing membership was mandatory and would like to be part of this action, join us for an informational meeting tentatively scheduled for Sunday, July 29th, at a place and time to be determined. A lawyer will be present to explain the suit and answer any questions.

To be notified of the official time and place of the meeting and kept apprised of the progress please send your name, telephone number and physical address to fightback@stillwaterlakes.net (Note: this email address is NOT associated with Stillwater Lakes Civic Association, Inc. We are property owners fighting for the rights of property owners.) Or call 570-851-0228 and leave a message with your information.


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